Canons that donbt fog infrared

bronwyn

Member
Does anyone know of canon camera that doesn't fog when shooting black and white infrared. I have an eos elan, eos 3 and an A2...the A2 is the best but still fogs. I would like to be able to stay with canon and use all my lenses....any suggestions?
 

jsmisc

Well-Known Member
Hello Bronwyn,
I have never tried infra red but I have read that it is tricky. I wonder if the A2 is the best because it is a metal body but if there is no window in the back, I wouldn't have thought that it should fog provided that the seals are OK. Is it alright with ordinary film?
Cheers,
John
 

bronwyn

Member
My understaning of the problem with fogging has more to do with the dx coding and the laser that is built into canons for reading that on the film. I have put black gaffers tape over the back window on my cameras but I have also tried it without doing this and it doesn't seem to matter....I want to be able to use my AF lenses...
I am ok with going totally manual, because when I shoot infrared that's what I do anyway but I want to use my lenses....

Yes, all of the cameras are alright with regular film just that tricky infrared causes problems....

Thanks for responding, John.

(oh and if I can get this figured out, I would also like to try shooting underwater with infrared....not too ambitious, I hope)

Bronwyn
 

grh

Member
Lasers are not used to read DX. Look inside your camera and you will see a row of pins that contact the film cassette. On the side of the cassette the DX code is black and silver squares - silver conducts between the pins, black insulates, and that's how your camera reads DX. The problem with Canons and IR is the diode used to measure the film advance.
 

bronwyn

Member
ok Guy,

I probably can't circumvent the diode since that is how the film advances, so it is sounding like I will need to go to a camera that I will have to manually advance....

I wonder if any of my AF lenses will work or if this means a new "old" camera and a few lenses too....
 
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mike_nunan

Hi Bronwyn,

The EOS-1v is definitely ok with IR film -- one of the many small advantages it holds over the EOS-3. If you want to avoid the expense of a 1v, it might be worth investigating whether the older 1-series cameras have the same feature. I'm sure a quick email or phone call to Canon would clear the matter up.

HTH

-= mike =-
 

bronwyn

Member
Thanks Mike!

This information is exactly what I'm looking for (a good place to start and some hope!)....I was also told to check out this web site
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which I found very helpful with some other canon recommendations that were a little expensive than the eos1-v....so I guess what I will try to do is rent? a few of these to try out before I buy.

does anyone know a good source for used equipment?

Thanks!

Bronwyn
 
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mike_nunan

Hi Bronwyn,

That Photonotes site is great isn't it? I hadn't looked at the IR stuff on there until yesterday, but I saw the reply to your other posting and went and checked it out. I've been there before for information on the Canon flash system though.

Re used equipment, where are you based??

-= mike =-
 
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mike_nunan

I'm in London, UK, so my advice may not be as relevant as some other peoples' around here since I don't often get used equipment from dealers in the US. I have done business with KEH (
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) a couple of times and have been very satisfied.

-= mike =-
 

indytone

Member
Hey,

I have a Canon G3 and use a Hoya Infrared filter all the time. I've never had it "fog" on any shot. I do a lot of outdoor infrared shots and the only issue I've had is that I have to wait until weather conditions are perfect to get a great shot. Obviously I can't control that though.
 

indytone

Member
Al,

Here's one that I took a few weeks ago. I need to resize the others and upload them.



It was a very sunny, hot, and non windy day when I took it. Perfect conditions.
 
Wow, that looks great. I never realized that the G3 would produce such nice infrareds with just a filter. I had read that there are certain digital cameras that are sensitive to infrared light with the proper combination of filters. Is this the case with the G3 or is the Hoya infrared filter all you needed? I've seen some infrared shots taken at outdoor wedding ceremonies and they look fabulous. I'd like to try that with my 10D if possible.

Thanks,

Al
 

indytone

Member
All I use is the Hoya. The only other thing I do is change the image size (when needed) in Photoshop.

Tips (that you will likely find anywhere else):
1. Use a tripod w/ remote to keep the camera as still as possible
2. Take advantage of proper weather conditions (Sunny, not windy)
 

mloufrost

Active Member
This may be duplication of an earlier discussion, but will the digital Rebel (300D) be able to
produce infrared images with the Hoya filter?
Mary Lou
 
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