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Contax Zeiss 645 lenses vs Zeiss N lenses on the Contax N1

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Guest

I was wondering if anyone has had experience using 645 lenses on the N1 and if so what are your opinions and observations? I ordered the nam-1 adapter and am waiting for it to arrive, just wondering what to expect and watch out for. I am particularly interested in comparisons of 645 lenses to N1 in simular focal lengths such as the 645 210mm and the 70 - 200 N or 70 - 300.
Thanks, Roger
 
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Guest

I have the 645 with the 80f2 and the 55 . I use them both on the N1 for weddings portraits. Im going to purchase the 24-85 ASAP.
So far results have been very good. I have shot ,2 weddings using the 645 lenses on the N1. The results have been perfect. It blows me away how sharp everything is.
My only complaint is that when you use the 645 lenses on the N1 , it drains batteries like crazy. I suppose I could get the vertical grip that holds 4 AA bateries, and that might help a little . I just love Zeiss lenses my work is sharper than other wedding photographers shooting with cannon , and nikons. It aslo changes the focal lenghts. The 80's like a 105 and the 55 turns into a normal lens on the N1 but that hasn't been a problem for me . I just wish that they would come out with a 70- 200 2.8 ;)~
 
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Guest

>=20 >=20 >=20 > I have all the lenses on 645 and used them all on N1 or N digital and the= y are > all working very good except that sometimes the Nam-1 when is not fitted = well > ( I meant to property aligned with all the contacts of the camera mount )= you > may lost the aparture reading. Quality is excellent for N mount to use 6= 45 > lens. 210mm is pretty good, to me, it is better than the 70-300, I don=B9t = have > the 70-200 so I cannot comment. >=20 > Brgds/Kaisern >=20 >=20
 
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Guest

Has anyone used the combination as following:

645 Lens + 645 1.4 TC + NAM-1 + N1

How is the performance, such as AF speed and especially the image quanlity?

Thanks, Frank
 

dirk

CI-Founder
I would be also interested in the comparison of the 80/2.0 of the Contax 645 mounted on a N1 via the NAM-adapter vs. the N85/1.4 directly on the N1.

Which combinations gives you better results in real life (not looking at MTF's) and how big is the difference. Any other downsides while using the NAM adapter alternative?

Thanks
 

albert4321

Well-Known Member
Generally, when I use the C645 lens on the N1, the color saturation is richer. You can see it right away on chrome film. Comparing the 80mm f/2.0 with the N4-85mm, the distortion is almost absent when I shoot table top.

The focus length does not change when you attach the C645 lenses on the N body. 80mm is 80mm (80mm in 645 is euivalent to 50mm in 135 format).
 

funjp

Member
I'm wondering about buying a 140mm 645 Sonnar to use with my N1. I've read Casey's comment that 645 lenses when attached to the N1 spend battery faster. I went today to the Ginza showroom(I live close to Tokyo at the moment) and asked there about this possibility. The answer I've got is that battery consumption wouldn't be different when using 645 lenses with the N1. Can anyone comment about this ?
 

benwang

Well-Known Member
Cristiano:
people always complain about n1 power. I want to add that it was the autofocus that drain batteries. when i take photo using n1, i think 50% time i use manual forcus, and i don't have a problem at all with the power consumption for n1.
my guess for using the 645 lenses, because of the weight, it will drain power like hell, however, my guess is if you don't rely on AF, the power consumption will be OK

Ben
 

albert4321

Well-Known Member
I would not let the battery consumption to be a decison maker on the 140mm/N1 combination. The benefit of the quality and having f/2.8 on 140mm AF lens out-weight any issues, IMO.

What else is the options?

Ben is right about the power consumption on the AF.
 

funjp

Member
Albert and Ben, many thanks for the replies. I tested the 645 140mm Sonnar with the N1, and it's a superb coupling. I asked at the showroom if were there plans for a 135mm for the N system, and what I got was that, there were no plans in the next 6 months. Should I wait for the release of a 135 mm N1 lens or just go with the 645 140mm Sonnar ? Would the price of N system 135 mm lens be much different when compared to a 645 140mm Sonnar + a NAM adapter ?
Well, there's always the advantage that the 140mm Sonnar can be used in 2 systems.
 

tessar_man

Active Member
I am also interested in possibly using 645 lenses on N1. I am still with Aria and Rollei SL66 at this point but the cross-compatibility is extremely attractive and the prospect to have both a 35mm SLR and the 645 (in its components?) in a Lowe Minitrekker backpack instead of always leaving MF system behind is exciting.
If you use the 4/120 645 Macro with NAM1 do you get 1:1 magnification on N1? How bright is the viewfinder at F4?
Is it a real alternative to N1 2.8/100 Macro Sonnar? (weight, clumsiness with NAM 1 etc.)
How fast does the AF work with 2.0/80 on N1? (as compared to original N1 1.4/85 lens?). The rapid battery drain is a concern. Sounds like the AA battery holders for N1 and 645 are a good idea up front.
Just discovered contaxinfo.com. Great design! Way better than old Contax List. - Jan
 

yogi

Well-Known Member
Quick Comment on the 645 120/4 it is manual focus not AF but it is APO and the price is considerably higher than that of the N 100/2.8. But the pictures are worth it. You get 1:1 with 120/4 on the N1 with the NAM1 and the viewfinder is sufficiently bright to manually focus using a split view screen. No idea regarding the AF of the 80.2 vs 85 1.4 (don't own the N lens). The P8 battery holder caries 4AA batteries and also works with the G1/G2 cameras with a GP-1 adapter.
 

yogi

Well-Known Member
Forgot to mention that if you do have a difficult time focusing on the N1 with split view finder Contax makes a viewfinder magnifier 2.1x that will help. For Macro work I find the Contax Right Angle finder to be very convenient as well.
 

albert4321

Well-Known Member
Many people claim that the Zeiss Planar marco is the best lens ever built. I don't know how true it is but best lens in my bag for sure. Being able to shoot 1:1 to infinity without tube is a great feature. And the sharpness and color saturation are hard to beat.

With the 120mm lens, you can also use the focus confirmation from the N1 viewfinder.
 

benwang

Well-Known Member
Cristiano:

don't bother to wait for the n1 for 135mm lens, there are so many other prime lens that need to be fill (if they ever fill it!) that I don't think 135 is on the waiting list. Afterall judging on the rate for new lens for N, it will be a long long long long long wait for you. So if you havea solution and $, go for it.

Ben
 

fotografz

Well-Known Member
Hmm, I wonder if there is an adapter existing, or one that could be made to take the manual lenses. The N1 mount is large like that of the EOS cameras, and there are all kinds of adapters to fit other lenses to EOS bodies (some folks use Leica R glass on Canon DSLRs for ex&le).

You do lose auto aperture and A/F, but the focus confirmation still works. But if I used a 135/2 Contax manual it'd be used mostly at f/2 to f/4 anyway, which makes viewing through a stopped down aperture fairly easy.

I also use Hasselbald lenses on my N cameras. Most notably the Hasselblad F110/2. NO other lens in my line-up performs like the 110/2 when it comes to portraits. Best Bokeh, best tonal rendering, best color, focuses very close.
This lens is famous, being Zeiss at their very best.
 

erichard44

Active Member
> Sorry about that last post, I forgot what I had to do and was in a hurry... In any event, I have heard about an adaptor for contax lenses to Canon EOS. Try bobshell.com

Richard Stone

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djg

I just e-mailed Bob to see what the chances are of getting an N-mount adapter made. I'm also wondering about the effect of the smaller diameter of the CY mount on a digital body.

DJ
 
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