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Is Herlbert Mustermann German for John Doe or Joe Blow?
John
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That should diminish the camera's value.
Who would want to buy a camera with a name engraved on it unless the named person is famous or infamous.
Who would want to buy a camera with a name engraved on it unless the named person is famous or infamous.
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Justin Scott sez: > > That should diminish the camera's value. > > Who would want to buy a camera with a name engraved on it unless the > named person is famous or infamous. >
And who would want to sell a Leica that had their name engraved?
Sonny
And who would want to sell a Leica that had their name engraved?
Sonny
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Sonny, I can answer your question, Your family.
When my grandfather died he left me a Berretta Shotgun worth around $1500.00 except that he had engraved his drivers license number on it in 28 places every damn part you could take off the gun. When I ran into some grave financial problems when first married. I went to sell this firearm and instead of getting the $1500.00 value that my grandfather intended me to have I was just barely able to squeeze $250.00 out of it as it's collectors value was ruined. So it was only usable as a working shotgun something you could buy new for $300.00 or even less. ALL of it's collector value was removed when he added his mark. My family really could have used that extra $1250.00 we needed it and could not access it because of the engraving. I don't fault my grandfather in any way he did to his shotgun what he thought best he protected it from loss due to theft
Now a loss of job, finding out that the company who has your money makes ENRON look like nice guys, Or needing cash right now for anything more important then a camera like food. Is a shitty time to find out just how little your beautifully engraved name is really worth.
I own some 45-50 cameras most are considered collectibles my Leica's, Braun's, Voigtlanders, Ciro Flexes, and even some of my Canons and not a one of them has some bodies name ground into it and I wouldn't have bought any of them at half the price I did if it did have any name on it.
It would screw up the value of a leica less to have it painted blue with red flames and white leatherette then it does to have your name on it.
IMHO
Mark W.
Canonitis FD sufferer and collector of 1950s rangefinder cameras including Braun/Paxettes and Leica LTM cameras and optics
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When my grandfather died he left me a Berretta Shotgun worth around $1500.00 except that he had engraved his drivers license number on it in 28 places every damn part you could take off the gun. When I ran into some grave financial problems when first married. I went to sell this firearm and instead of getting the $1500.00 value that my grandfather intended me to have I was just barely able to squeeze $250.00 out of it as it's collectors value was ruined. So it was only usable as a working shotgun something you could buy new for $300.00 or even less. ALL of it's collector value was removed when he added his mark. My family really could have used that extra $1250.00 we needed it and could not access it because of the engraving. I don't fault my grandfather in any way he did to his shotgun what he thought best he protected it from loss due to theft
Now a loss of job, finding out that the company who has your money makes ENRON look like nice guys, Or needing cash right now for anything more important then a camera like food. Is a shitty time to find out just how little your beautifully engraved name is really worth.
I own some 45-50 cameras most are considered collectibles my Leica's, Braun's, Voigtlanders, Ciro Flexes, and even some of my Canons and not a one of them has some bodies name ground into it and I wouldn't have bought any of them at half the price I did if it did have any name on it.
It would screw up the value of a leica less to have it painted blue with red flames and white leatherette then it does to have your name on it.
IMHO
Mark W.
Canonitis FD sufferer and collector of 1950s rangefinder cameras including Braun/Paxettes and Leica LTM cameras and optics
Show and tell:
Don't meddle in the affairs of Dragons, as you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!
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[Hey John,
Yes you are right, it's in German the same as John Doe! Translating in English it's Heribert S&leman!
Best Regards Julius ]
Yes you are right, it's in German the same as John Doe! Translating in English it's Heribert S&leman!
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> Sonny, I can answer your question, Your family. > > When my grandfather died he left me a Berretta Shotgun worth around > $1500.00 except that he had engraved his drivers license number on it > in 28 places every damn part you could take off the gun. I was just barely able to squeeze > $250.00 out of it as it's collectors value was ruined.
Mark
I appreciate and understand your answer. I guess the point I was attempting to make is that if you spend the rather pricey sum (of was it Eur 190?) to have the engraving, it should be thought of as a keeper. As you can probably tell, I am not a proponent of Leicas as monetary investment.
My M6 is going on 12 years old, it is my primary camera. The CL is 30 something, and all of my lenses are in the 30 year old range. When you think of them as investing in good tools that won't let you down, then they become rather cheap to own.
I'm afraid my cameras will never be considered collectible, unless I become far more famous than I am, because I do use them. I don't brutalize them, but they all have the patina of use. I would hope that when I'm gone one of my kids will take the camera and love it for the fact that it was a cherished and well used possesion of their father's.
One of the things I always wanted that belonged to my grandfather was his pocket knife and sharpening stone. The stine was worn to a hollow from use. The little Buck's blade was thin as a reed, but always sharp. When I picture him in my mind, it is sitting by the fireplace at night drawing that blade over the stone and talking to us. I did not inherit the knife, but I always wished for it.
And yes, I would consider engraving the camera with my name. The price is just too much.
Regards,
Sonny
Mark
I appreciate and understand your answer. I guess the point I was attempting to make is that if you spend the rather pricey sum (of was it Eur 190?) to have the engraving, it should be thought of as a keeper. As you can probably tell, I am not a proponent of Leicas as monetary investment.
My M6 is going on 12 years old, it is my primary camera. The CL is 30 something, and all of my lenses are in the 30 year old range. When you think of them as investing in good tools that won't let you down, then they become rather cheap to own.
I'm afraid my cameras will never be considered collectible, unless I become far more famous than I am, because I do use them. I don't brutalize them, but they all have the patina of use. I would hope that when I'm gone one of my kids will take the camera and love it for the fact that it was a cherished and well used possesion of their father's.
One of the things I always wanted that belonged to my grandfather was his pocket knife and sharpening stone. The stine was worn to a hollow from use. The little Buck's blade was thin as a reed, but always sharp. When I picture him in my mind, it is sitting by the fireplace at night drawing that blade over the stone and talking to us. I did not inherit the knife, but I always wished for it.
And yes, I would consider engraving the camera with my name. The price is just too much.
Regards,
Sonny