I need help with my E500

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Moydoy22

Hello everyone. Let me frist start off by telling you that I pretty new at digital SLR photography and already I'm frustrated . I am looking to buy a wide angle lens and/or telephoto lens for my E500 however I am not willing to spend a lot of money on them either. I do not intend to go professional, but still want the ability to produce different effects. I'll even buy thru ebay however I just don't know what fits my camera or what I need to get so that certain lenses can fit onto my camera. I saw on B&H there was a wide angle lens for $99 (Sigma Zoom Super Wide Angle 18-50mm f/3.5-5.6 DC G Autofocus Lens for Olympus Digital Cameras (Four Thirds System)...is this something I should look into or should I not waste my time on it? I just don't want to get duped into buying something expensive and don't need. And for the telephoto lens, I saw this at B&H - Sigma Zoom Normal-Telephoto 55-200mm f/4-5.6 DC Autofocus Lens for Olympus Digital Cameras (Four Thirds System).

I look forward to getting your advice.
 
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walrichard

The Sigmas are not quite up to the standard of the native Olympus Zuiko lenses and they are less robust, hence the lower prices. But they are it seems pretty good value for money for someone who does not intend going professional. Just do not drop them down a mountain!
If you have a good camera like the Olympus 500, I would not spoil your enjoyment by getting anythin cheaper. There are cheaper lenses on the market but I would not bother. If you are used to Olympus or other manual focus lenses, a cheaper alternative compromise is to buy OM2 lenses from ebay sellers and an adapter ring from China on Ebay. Look for Adapter lenses Olympus OM on E-1/300/500. It is half the cost of Olympus' own model. It will cut your operating options such as auto focus but is a worthy solution.
 

andy_radcliffe

Active Member
Did you buy the E-500 body only or did you get the kit lenses with it? If you got it as a body only you could do worse than to buy the 14-45mm and 40-150mm lenses. They don't cost much (plenty of them on eBay) and , for the money, I believe they are pretty good performers (though not as good as the 14-54mm and 50-200mm lenses).I personally wouldn't bother with the Sigma 55-200mm, nor would I bother with any of the "add on" wide angle /telephoto converters (like you see loads of on eBay) In my opinion, a waste of money!
Just do a search for Zuiko digital lenses and you'll get an idea of what is around.

Regards,

Andy.
 
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Moydoy22

Hi Andy. Thanks for you response. I got the E500 body with the kit lenses. The thing is, I know that the zuiko digital lenses are definitely better however i can't get myself to spend the money only because this is not going to be my profession. It's just a hobby, but at the same time, I do want quality. So I have to meet somewhere in the middle. I have money constraints therefore I can't see myself spending more than $350 on any lens. Do you know of any sites that I can find Olympus lenses? I seem to have trouble with that too. I dont' know what fits my camera and what doesn't, or what I need in order for certain lenses to fit onto my camera. Are there lenses out there other than Zuiko that I can buy for less?

Thanks again for your advice.
 

gjames52

Well-Known Member
Anne:

Try visiting B & H.

To me the lens is the most important component. Cameras are like trucks and some cars it's what's up front that counts.

If you hurry into buying a lens that you will not be satisfied with, you will either quit, or like most buy the one you should have in the first place. So, it is usually best to wait until you can afford what you need.

I believe that most of the forum members are amateurs.

Regards:

Gilbert
 
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Moydoy22

Okay I am not trying to be difficult =), but is there anything you could suggest for only a temporary solution to get wide angle effects for cheap? If you HAD TO (which of course you don't) suggest something, would it be an extension tube? something to use with an adaptor?
 

omtech1

Well-Known Member
> heard that Sigma may be introducing lenses for the 4/3rds system, but > I don't know when that will be. Also, by using the Olympus MF-1 > adapter, you can use lenses from the Olympus OM system on your Olympus E digital body (in full manual of course).
 

andy_radcliffe

Active Member
Hi Anne,

Do you really need wider coverage than the 14-45mm can give you at the wide end? Legacy lenses (ie. OM system lenses)with the adaptor won't help you there because on the small 4/3rds sensor a 21mm lens will only give you the same coverage as a 42mm lens would on 35mm.
The only choices are either the 11-22mm (which maybe you could find within your budget) or the 7-14mm , which will cost you a lot more.
Another suggestion if you only need very wideangle coverage occasionally is to take two or more images at, say, 25mm and stitch them to make a wider composite covering the view you need.
I find that PTGUI software does an amazingly good job of this and doesn't cost an arm and a leg either.
The only wideangle adaptor that would be worth considering (in my opinion) is the WCON Aadaptor designed for use on the Olympus IS3000.How well it would work with the very short focal length DZ lenses is another matter however and ideally you would need to try it out. You also would need an adaptor to mount it on the DZ 14-45mm (to convert from 55mm thread on the WCON to whatever the filter thread size is on the 14-45mm - 62mm?)

In my view I would bite the bullet and find an 11-22mm - a superb lens and much sharper than the 14-45mm too. Adding any of these "front of lens" adaptors is only going to make it worse .

Hope all this is some help,

Andy.
 

weedram

Well-Known Member
Anne: Don't take any temporary or "half way" measures. "Creeping up" on something is always more expensive in the long run. What happens is you get something cheap, it disappoints, and you end up either giving up (wasting your investment, your time and any money you spend on crappy prints), or buying what you really should have purchased in the first place, once again wasting your original investment.

BTW, extension tubes are for achieving closer focus, i.e. macro work, not wide angle.

The problem with what you want is that there are few wide angles for 4/3s mount. This is because most amateurs are not that interested in wide angle, they want telephoto and zoom. (Telephoto because they're often too timid to get close, zoom because they're often lazy.) Pros, who need WA much more often, demand top quality, which is harder to achieve with a small sensor such as the 4/3s CCD.

If you really need wide angle (as opposed to just want), I'd sell off the kit lens, save for the 11-22 and go that way.

Finally, just because you are not a professional doesn't meanyou should seek the best. Amateur, in its literal definition, means one who loves an activity. Don't sell yourself short.
 
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Moydoy22

> HI Earl and thanks for your advice.. I am slowly coming to realize that I should really consider spending the money on good quality lenses rather than going halfway and not getting the results that would impress me and keep me going. I just love the effect that the wide angle lenses produce. I also love close up shots too. So i guess one thing at a time. I should first master master my camera a bit more and then see what it is that my heart desires afterwards. I'll have to admit, I am inpatient and want to see results immediately but don't worry, I know that it would swing that way with photography. It takes practice and hopefully I can show improvement in the near future.

Thanks you everyone for taking the time out to help me and give me solid advice.
 
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Moydoy22

> Thanks Andy. So it seems like everyone is suggesting th 11-22mm lens which I will consider in time. But I know first things first..I need get better at taking photos with my camera with the lenses I have now beforeI can move onto better lenses. I tend to jump the gun because I get excited. One question, it is the wide angle lens that creates the effect of making objects seem a lot closer than they are, right? Or did I confuse that with something else?

Thanks again Andy
 

andy_radcliffe

Active Member
Hi Anne,

Well, it's quite a complex subject , this idea of certain lenses making things appear closer.
The simple answer is that the longer the focal length the larger image of the subject you will capture (but less of it) Think binoculars or a telescope?
A wide angle lens used from the same position will show a wider field of view and reproduce everything in it at a smaller scale.
Simple enough so far....

However, where it gets more complex is when you consider the relative sizes of different objects.
This is controlled solely by the position you take the photo from and NOT by focal length. You can prove this to yourself - take a photo with the 14-45mm @ 14mm and also one with the 40-150mm at 150mm (from the identical place) . Open them both in your image editing software and crop the wideangle one to show the same coverage as the telephoto one. Perspective will be the same.

Now, take two photos of, say, a car with a house in the background, using both lenses and same focal lengths(longest and shortest you have) as before. Fill the frame with the car by moving nearer or further away (NOT by zooming).
Open both of these images (leave them full frame, don't crop) and see the difference in the relative sizes of the car and house .

So, the short answer now is that a wideangle lens can lend more prominence to foreground objects, whereas the longer focal length you use the more emphasis can be given to background objects too.

This is without going into depth of field, which is a whole subject in itself.

I would like, if I may, to give two bits of advice.
1) Find a good basic text book, by someone like John Hedgecoe.
2) Experiment (and keep some notes) That is the beauty of digital capture - until you go to print it's not costing you anything.

Best wishes,

Andy.
 

andy_radcliffe

Active Member
Anne - something I forgot..
Don't try to sell the kit lens, for what you can get for that lens on the secondhand market I would keep it, it will always be useful.
BTW, you already have focal lengths from 14-150mm covers (28-300mm in 35mm equiv.)which is not bad really. That range probably covers 90% of the needs of 90% of photographers!

Andy.
 

omtech1

Well-Known Member
> What is the point in going cheap? I understand it may be a matter of budget, but when you get poor looking pictures which are not sharp at the edges or there is color fringing, the only thing you can end up saying is "well atleast the lens was cheap." I suggest saving your money for a while and investing in a quality lens.
 

bdcolen

Well-Known Member
On the other hand, if the choice is the cheaper lens or no lens, go with the cheaper lens, learn what you can with it, and eventually go for the better lens.
 

pip22

Member
Whovever it was asked the OP if he bought the E-500 "body only", I wasn't aware you could do that with Olympus 'E' cameras. They only come as a kit over here in the UK(unless you buy privately s/hand of course)?
 

andy_radcliffe

Active Member
Have a trawl through the advertisers in Amateur Photographer - I think that you'll find quite a few supplying the E-system cameras as a "body only" option.
Digital Depot, Park Cameras and Warehouse Express are just three that spring to mind.
However, bearing in mind the really low extra cost to have the 14-45mm included it is probably worthwhile getting it anyway even if you only keep it as a spare or sell it on eB*y.
 
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