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Kodak new film

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benwang

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I have been using Fuji Reala 100 for a long time. Recently, My brother recommend me to use a new film, the Kodak HD 200. It was amazing!! The film is extremly sharp! very very fine grain!! Great colour!! I took it to the flowers show in Hong Kong and did some macro photo with this film and the result is truely amazing! I took 3 rolls of reala and one roll of this new film, the reala' were good, the images were great, sometimes it looks 3-D. But for this new HD film, all of them was great, the images stick out, you can see the flowers in front of you alive! I don't know what to say, but this new film is truely great! I have never use any film like this before! IMHO, it is by far a LOT better compare to Reala!!!

Ben
 
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wilsonlaidlaw

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I have been using HD200 for about 5 months with my G2 and RX. I was stunned by the crispness/sharpness/definition but am a little bit less sure about the colour quality. I find it almost too contrasty and therefore a little hard. Admittedly I have been using Fujilab to develop and print at 8" x 6" rather than Kodak, as locally Fujilab offers a better service. I can then scan in the 8 x 6 prints I want and manipulate and print digitally. Perhaps on the next roll I will give Kodaklab a try and see if their colour quality is more to my liking. Overall though, I think the film is excellent and gives less grain than most 100ASA films. I am sure someone must sell it mail order in the USA (?Google search). I buy Dutch market films from a mail order outfit in the UK Channel Islands (
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) at about GBP7 for 3 x 36 exp rolls. Wilson
 
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nelsonpoon

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I've just ordered 2 pack x 3 rolls x 36 exp. of HD 200 film from Adorama Camera throught amazon.
I do not use professional film to take picture with Contax camera/West Germany Carl Ziss lens for a long time, because I found that to have a good picture, camera, lens, film, film process , development, condition of chamical, photo paper and color balance control, all of above should be in good condition, otherwise, I will feel bad.

But I would like to try this film.

I want to apply Carl Ziss T* lenses to digital camera, but Contax N series camera is too expensive, anyone have good idea?

Nelson
 
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benwang

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Nelson, try the sony 828, but I heard that they have a very bad fringing problems, the N is good choice, apart from being a bit expensive and heavy!

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nelsonpoon

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Ben:

Are T* lenses can be used on Sony 828 and Contax N series body? I'm using RTS-III, it is heavy too.


There is Contax N digital camera body sale with price $4,500, is it good price to buy or wait until the new N series digital camera body put into market?

Nelson


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benwang

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Nelson:

The feature on Sony 828 is great! the CZ T* lenses is I think 28-280, f2-2.8! I think you can see it everywhere now and it cost about usd 1000 in Hong Kong. The T* lenses is pre-install in the sony so you can not change lenses.

The N is heavy! In term of body weight, I think is comparible to RTSIII, However, the lenses is something! To give you an ideal, I think the 50 1.4 is approx the same weight as the c-y 85 1.4. and that is what I call heavy. Wait until you see the 17-35, 2.8 and it weight more then a kilo! (but it is a very good lens)

From what I heard about the N digital, I heard they have discontinued with the production. I am not too sure if N-D is still worthy to buy at 4500, however, if you want an SLR digital camera using T* lenses, N is a good choice. On the other hand, there is some discussion regarding a canon mount for c-y lenses. I think this will be an approach that you can consider.

Finally, if you want to wait for the NDII, I think you can forget it, I very much doult it will release soon! (or ever!)

Ben
 
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gjames52

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I do not understand what the last four posts have to do with Kodak's new film, other than not using it.


Regards:

Gilbert
 
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hdfuhrman

Active Member
Nelson,
There is an excellent article on Kenrockwell.com ("How-to") on "Two Classes of Digital Cameras". The thrust of the article is that once you get up to a price close to what you pay for a DSLR, why not buy a DSLR. Now I can understand that if you wanted a compact P&S digital for size and weight. The 828 appears to be relatively large and bulky with a good lens but a very small sensor. From what I have read that it is very noisy beyond ISO 100. I do not remember what reviewers say about the 828 shutter's delay.

If instead of the 828, you purchase either a Canon Digital Rebel or the upcoming Nikon D70 for some additional cost, you then get faster, more accurate focusing, no shutter delay, choice of multiple lenses, a sensor 6 or 7 times the sensor size in the 828. You get very large 6mp rather than a tiny 8mp. The DSLR allows you to shoot at ISO 1600 acceptably.

Based on what I have read, I am not a fan of any of the current 8MP cameras digital P&S because the sensors are too small and too noisy at ISO's above 100, and they experience shutter delay.

I own a Canon A80. I suffer from Shutter delay, but it is small, lightweight, has a screen that twists in all directions, and I can take it everywhere. It suffers from everything that P&S 8MP's, but at least it is small and light and easy to carry. One day I will purchase either a DSLR or a reasonaly priced and reasonably featured digital G2 rangefinder if it ever becomes available.

Thank you for listening to my point of view. Good luck in your decision.

Howard
 
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nelsonpoon

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Ben:

Gilbert comment we better not using "Kodak new film" title to discuse digital camera, I agree with it, but how to initiate new title?

Here is the site to review Sony 828.
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In which I found that the picture shown that Sony 828 is better than Canon 10D, I think the reason is Carl Ziss lenses better than canon lenses. I would spend additional money around $400 to buy 58mm .5 wild angle and 2x telelenses, then most lenses length can be cover,
.5x7.1mmx4=15mm and 51mmx4x2=400mm.
I just checked Canon Digital Rebel, $799 for body only, I do not have any canon lenses, better canon lenes would cost $1,000 and up. So it doesn't add little more money.

Nelson



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benwang

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back to the new kodak HD (let stay with the subject!) I had the picture enlarge, and it confirm that the grain is real great. The colour on the other hand is more crispy compare with the reala, Unlike the other Kodak film whish is tends to red, I think it tends toward a bit yellow, but that my feeling, not sure if it is correct

Ben
 
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benwang

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Nelson,

I don't think I have the right to upload the pic, and I don't have a film scanner either. But I love to share my photo with you, send me a private mail and will send it to your e-mail add later, after I scan it with my brother.

Ben
 
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nelsonpoon

Member
Ben:

Here is my e-mail address:

nlpoon@aol.com

I when to camera shop to take a look at Sony 828, I like it. Now I am checking the price of camera and accessaries. I found one of the cheapest is US$649, Hitachi Microdrive 4GI is $499 and canon .5x wild angle lenses and 2x telelenses with tripod and bag $400.
That are what I want to buy.
Any comment?

Nelson
 
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benwang

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Nelson:

The price for camera sounded very reasonable! yet the 0.5* and the 2* convertor seems a bit odd. I mean using the CZ glass and mix it with canon, not that I know it will affect the quility, but may be you will loose that touch of CZ charactor!?the lens already offers very wide range, do you need to purchase these convertor?
Also, did you get this offer as a package? It seem that everything you got as an accessory is off very good quility! a camera bag for 828 will not cost more the USD 50! and for usd 100, you will get a very decent tripod (made by alloy). My understanding for those canon convertor is just like filter, I wonder if it worth more then 250? I am not sure about the microdrive. Anyway, if I were you, instead of going to the cheapest place, I would go for the reliable place, paying for a bit more may save you lots of trouble!

Ben
 
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nelsonpoon

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Ben:

Thank you for your advice, I called the dealer it sells cheapest sony 828, they said no stock. I still search around and not hurry to get one.
I just received the Kodak HD 200 film, will try it later.

Nelson
 
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