Leitz 90mm F4 Elmar C

marc65

Member
Hi,

There is one of these on eBay at a good price. I was wondering if anyone knows anything about the Elmar-C, or has an opinion. I want a 90mm, but don't want to spend a fortune, as I don't think it will see a lot of use. The seller insists it was made in Germany, not Japan, and that it will work fine, focus wise, with an M6. Any opinons???

Marc, New York.
 
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Wurzelwerker

Hi Marc,

the Elmar-C is a very fine lens. I have used it for years at a Leica CL, now at a M6. The construction has been improved a lot, compared to the prior Elmar 4/90 from the 50es. In the early 70es Leitz Wetzlar used already a modern coating process, so the performance is great.

Focusing problems with the Elmar-C at M cameras are probably a myth.

And if you're mainly interested in results and if your budget is limited, you might also have a look at the Voigtlaender Apo-Lanthar 3,5/90 - similar construction, excellent performance... it lacks only the Leica brand, and you will need an adapter from 39 mm screw-mount to M-bajonet.

Markus, Wetzlar
 

marc65

Member
Markus,

Thanks for the reply. I thought about the Voigtlander too, but, of course, would like to stay with the Leitz, if possible. I might just go with the Elmar-C.
Thanks again, Marc, NYC.
 

jorks

Member
Like Markus, I have used a 90mm Elmar C since I bought it with my CL in 1977. Later on a M4. It focused perfectly with the M4 rangefinder. It was very very sharp and contrasty. Unfortunately it was stolen!

Louis
 

patrickngai

Active Member
Just a little complement that the lens do not work well with portrait as it's too sharp and high defination, girl will hate it.

Patrick
 

ruben_blaedel

Well-Known Member
I have an elmar-c and have no focusing problems. It is a small lens that will fit in almost any pocket - its cheap and performs very well. because of the f4 it is not ideal for low light situations but on the other hand it is very light and easy to hold steady with a M body - I first tried an elmarit but whent for the elmar-c because of size -
 

vishalvora

Well-Known Member
I too am keen to buy a C lens - mainly because of size and price. How much of the viewfinder does it take up? Is it possible to use normal filters with this lens? I have seen two ex&les in a dealer (UK based) for £180 and £220. Are these good prices or should I try and bargain?

Thanks,

Vishal
 

ruben_blaedel

Well-Known Member
The 180 £ is more resonable than 220 £ - In DK I paid about 180 £ for my elmar C and we have an awfull 25% vat ! so 180 £ should be max - perhaps you should bargain for a filter or a cap- Bring your camera to the store and try it on - it does not take much of the viewfinder but it takes some getting use to as it is a very little image in the finder on a 0.72. The filter tread should be standard 39 mm
 

jorks

Member
Both the 90mm Elmar C and the 40mm Summicron C use series 5.5 filters. These are hard to come by. They do not screw directly into the lens mount, but are held in place by the lenshood.

Standard 39mm filters will not fit.

Louis
 

marc65

Member
Hi all,

Thanks for all the replies on this. The only "negative" I see so far is--IT IS TOO SHARP!
Seems like a good bet so far. Thanks,

Marc, NYC.
 
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thinkofcole

For Vishal Vora, the 90mm/f4 C lens-- made in bayonet mount for the Leica CL model but also usable on Leica M cameras -- takes a Series 5.5 filter, along with the Rokkor 90mm/f4 made for the Minolta CLE model. As has already been mentioned, Series 5.5 filters are difficult to find.
 

vishalvora

Well-Known Member
thanks but why is this ruben guy stating that his 90mm C lens is able to take a 39mm filter? is there an adapter availble?

many thanks.

vishal
 
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thinkofcole

For Vishal, Leica says its 90mm C lens takes a Series 5.5 filter, which drops into the front of the lens and is held there by the screw-in rubber hood. If you have a 39mm filter, you can check yourself. It won't fit; it's too big. Ask Ruben to explain how he's done it.
The only adapter I can think of would be a step-up ring from Series 5.5 to 39 mm, which might have to be made to order and, therefore, would be uneconomical. The Series 5.5 UV filter would cost from $5 to $30, depending on who's selling it.
 
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leica_cl_m

Dear Vishal!

Caution: hood & Serie 5.5. filter is want Leica wanted for the special (and wonderful) C_ompact L_eica. Ok. I use both with CL and M7 and found the filters, too.

But if you use 39E filters, you might use them only as a help: It has another angle of the screwing. So without danger (don't sew me!!!) You can screw the 39E ONLY a half or a three quarter turns in - so that it fits "enough" for the picture but could fall down. (I do that for Infrared fotos, where i have only the 39E-type.) If You turn the 39E heavy into the lens it WILL damage the screw, of course. Be cautious, these beauties are ALL 31 or 32 Years old...
B.t.w. if You can rent a lens: compare the C4/90 with the APO 90 on "slow" film. I had many discussions with friends, which picture would be from which lens!

Have fun-
Giselher.
 

ruben_blaedel

Well-Known Member
Hi here is another word from Ruben on the 39 mm filter - My elmar -c made in germany takes the same 39 mm filter as my summicron 2.0 ( ihave no idea if it is a 39 abc or e - I am not using force and it srews of again just as easily as it comes on. I am very far from being a leica expert but i do enjoy using the lens. It is nice for portraits and compact to. I have no way of seeing if someone has altered the filtertread but it also accepts a laica rubberhood that i was told was the original ? so dont sew me either
 

colin

Well-Known Member
B+W make a variety of Series 5.5 filters I had quite a few for my Summicron C and Elmar C when I owned a Leica CL.
These filters are currently available from B&H photovideo. $22.95 USD for regular and $29.95USD for Multi Resistant Coating (MRC) THese are prices for "new"
Colin
 
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leica_cl_m

Too late for sewing... if it works, it is fine! I have the B&W also, which are great. For hifi-recording i take the filter away.

What i have learned some days ago: There must have been a adapter for the CL-front which connects to the Leica universal POL filter which was built for the outside of the 39E ("Einschraub")-filter mount.

That would be also interesting because as POL on the fine 40 and C90 i use the 39 type like the Infrared one.
i call it in future the "sewing-type" ;-)

Have fun,
Giselher
 
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leicaman83

CL lenses use 39mm thread but .75 pitch. The whole rest of Leica is 39mm .5 pitch. I guess it will start to go on and then jam after 1/2 turn or so. S K Grimes will make an adapter to convert to standard pitch.
 
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