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Powershot Pro 1

vana32

Member
I hope I am in the right place for discussions on the Canon Powershot Pro 1. 8 megapixels and 28 - 200 L lens.
Mine will be arriving next week as they are here in Australia.
Has anyone else got one yet?
 

luf

New Member
I haven't decided yet.
I'm very keen on getting one but I'm put off by some reviews stating that this camera shows a high degree of noise.
Since I intend to use it as a candid camera indoor with low light, I'm note sure if I'd better keep my G2 instead.
Any opinions out there (esp. about Pro1 noise?)
 
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Jim

I saw it for the first time on April 2, bought one on April 6. I live in the Chicago area (USA). The store where I boughr it sold about 6 units last week.

The photos are fantastic! I have not taken any low light shots at any ISO above 100. At 100, the images are excellent. I have not noticed any problem with noise. All the shots I have taken were very clean.

Outdoors in sunlight or cloudy conditions - WOW.
I especially like the Macro and Super Macro modes. You can gets great shots of wild flowers with this camera.

The zoom, manual focus, and all exposure modes are great. If you put the A/F in continuous, you can shoot about as fast as you want.

The menus are easy to navigate, however it would be nice if you could organize the order of the menu items so you could have the ones you use most often at the top. Some of the items I will use aclot, like Super Macro, can't be used in the Custom modes.

All controls are easy to use and easy to reach. The camera fits well in your hand and is a joy to use.

The electronic viewfinder is the best I have seen. (I have a Sony 717 and a Panasonic - I just put the Sony up for sale and gave the Panasonic to my daughter)

I will take some time to try out all the features of this camera in detail, but I should have them tested out by the end of April.

Jim
 
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Jim

I saw it for the first time on April 2, bought one on April 6. I live in the Chicago area (USA). The store where I boughr it sold about 6 units last week.

The photos are fantastic! I have not taken any low light shots at any ISO above 100. At 100, the images are excellent. I have not noticed any problem with noise. All the shots I have taken were very clean.

Outdoors in sunlight or cloudy conditions - WOW.
I especially like the Macro and Super Macro modes. You can gets great shots of wild flowers with this camera.

The zoom, manual focus, and all exposure modes are great. If you put the A/F in continuous, you can shoot about as fast as you want.

The menus are easy to navigate, however it would be nice if you could organize the order of the menu items so you could have the ones you use most often at the top. Some of the items I will use aclot, like Super Macro, can't be used in the Custom modes.

All controls are easy to use and easy to reach. The camera fits well in your hand and is a joy to use.

The electronic viewfinder is the best I have seen. (I have a Sony 717 and a Panasonic - I just put the Sony up for sale and gave the Panasonic to my daughter)

It will take some time to try out all the features of this camera in detail, but I should have them tested out by the end of April.

Jim
 
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Jim

sorry about the double post - but my connection dropped just as I hit the post button
jim
 

vana32

Member
I also have the Powershot Pro 1 and really love it. However, I have had some noise in a couple of the photos - not noticable until you view the photo at 100% so I have bought noise reduction from Neat Image which does an excellent job of getting rid of noise.
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Wendy
 
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Jim

Wendy -

Under what shooting conditions (lighting, ISO setting, etc) did you get the noise? I have not tried any low-light photos yet. I don't usually shoot in those conditions with digital - film is still better for low-light photography.

All of the shots I havevtaken so far are in sunlight or cloudy conditions and there is no noticable noise in the shadows areas.

I have heard of the Neat Image software and one review said it was one of the best noise reduction package out. I was thinking of buying it - just in case.

I hope to do some more shooting this weekend and might try some low-light shots at higher ISO settings. I usually shoot at ISO 50 or 100.

All of the 8 MP cameras seem to be suffering from a noise problem. I wonder if 8 MP is too much for a small sensor chip.

Anyone have any comments or ideas on this?

Jim
 

jarmo

New Member
I have just bought a Pro 1 and looking forward to get some good quality shots with that... One thing that I will be needing in the future is an external flash. Does anybody have experience of the 220EX, 420EX and 550EX? I suppose that camere balance is not too good with the 550EX? Any experience with the other makes than Canon?

Jarmo
 

epocenter

Member
I have all 3 flashes and have used them on my G1. The 550 is a little big, the 420 works well and the 220 is the perfect size but for some reason the 220 overexposes everything. Just on the G1 not my film cameras..... strange.....
 

griffin

Active Member
To Jarmo:
I used a 420 ex to good effect with the G2 when I had one. It did not overwhelm it as badly as the 550. I did try both and thought the 420 just worked better with the G camera.
 
Hola Amigos:
I heve used the Metz 54MZ3 with the 3202 shoe (Canon dedicated) on my Rebel Digital and Elan 7E and works very very nice. Just one tip: for flash bracketing you have to use Metz ev setting, I have not found how to do control that from the Rebel Digital. The unit is heavy but powerful.
 
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mike_nunan

I'd give my vote to at 220 with off-camera cord. You can use this for bounce flash and it gives much more flexibility than even the 550 (although obviously less power). You just hold the camera in one hand, and the flash in the other, you can then bounce it right over your shoulder for ex&le. I've been using this setup with my EOS-1v and absolutely loving it. The 550 has stayed at home most of the time recently. No problems with overexposure that I can see, but I don't use it camera-mounted so maybe that makes a difference.

-= mike =-
 
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Jim

Hi Pro1 folks -

I don't have an external flash yet, but I tried out a couple of Canon flashes at the store where I bought the camera. I think I will go with 420 on a bracket with the Canon off-camera cord. The 550 is just to bulky for me. The 420 lit up the entire shop at the 28mm setting. If I decidecto get 2 flashes, I will probably go with another 420 for multiple flash shots.

The camera is great. Last weekend I had time to experiment with some of the features. The Super Macro Mode is SUPER. I used to do a lot of macro work for camera club competition and this feature is going to make my day.

I am not a big fan of the digital zoom but this camera has a usable digital zoom. I shot a series of photos from 28mm to 200mm at the marked focal lengths (35mm equiv.) and one at the full 22x digital zoom - 616mm equiv. to 35mm. I would not try to make large prints from shots at this setting, by 4x6 or 5x7 would be OK.

This comming week end I will have more time to try out some of the other features.

I have not tried RAW yet - has anyone used it with this camera?

I have not had any problems with noise or fringing.

Jim
 
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mike_nunan

Jim,

It may be different with the Pro-1 compared to the EOS-series SLR bodies, but in general I think you need a 550EX to control a remote 420 slave. You can't do multiflash with just two 420s.

Regards,

-= mike =-
 
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Jim

Mike,

Thanks for the info. I will check with my Canon dealer again, but I was told that 2 420's will work together. One nice thing about my Canon dealer - all Canon. And, they do commercial, wedding, and portrait work plus they have a lab for both chemical and digital printing. They will let me set up the equipment in the studio to try it.

I am new to digital photography - only about 2 years as opposed to 50+ with the "old ways".

I am not used to the camera being smarter than I am and doing all my work.

I'll let you know if 2 420's will work.

Jim
 

matthewm

Member
Jim,

I'm almost postive that you'll be unable to use just two 420EX's by themselves. Wirelessly, they only operate as slaves, so you'll need a master of some kind, either a 550EX or an ST-E2 transmitter.

Matthew
 

vana32

Member
Power Shot Pro 1
Jim wrote:Under what shooting conditions (lighting, ISO setting, etc) did you get the noise?
It was just after sunrise on the beach and I was using ISO 100 - got noise in the sky and the surf.
I had posted this reply to you earlier, but I don't think it got through. So sorry for the delay.
 

epocenter

Member
I am almost sure you will need a 550 to trigger the 420. I have not read anything that says the Pro 1 has the master flash capability to trigger off camera flashes. Its really nice to have the 550 because its so powerful. The 550 420 combo works really well for me.
 
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Jim

Eric & Matthew,

Thanks for the input on the flash. I also found out that the 420 does not have variable power. So, I will probably go with the 550 first, then add the 420 later.

Jim
 
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Jim

Wendy,

I have not had any noise in any images yet, including those with just the sky for a background.

I have a shot of a jetliner taking off from O'Hare and it is very clear when you consider the haze in the atmosphere in the Chicago area.

If I zoom in on the belly of the airplane using the zoom tool in Photoshop, I can make out detail even in the darkest shadow areas. The picture was shot about 12:15 in the afternoon under a clear blue but hazy sky. The lens was at the max focal length. Of course, the entire bottom of the airplane is in shade, but the detail is there.

I am shooting all my images at ISO 100. I will let you know if I get noise in any future images and theconditions involved.

Jim
 
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