Doug,
> Posted by Doug Glover (Douglas) on Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - 12:40 am: > > I would urge you all to read the above personal attack mounted by > Austin Franklin, veteran Contax basher.
Since I didn't "mount" a personal attack, I can only guess that you believe if you somehow say it enough, it will make it true...or people are so stupid that they'll simply forget reality, and believe what you say. Neither, here at least, is true.
I happen to love Contax cameras and Zeiss lenses. I have quite a few of them, and enjoy them all.
What you've been doing, is making things up that simply weren't said. That's typically called lying. What, exactly, are you claiming is "bashing"? If I don't love every aspect of something, and I express my dislike, is that bashing? Fact is, you're the one doing the bashing, and you're bashing Leicas, and now me for pointing out your comments were simply unsubstantiated.
> If you disagree with Austin, or express a contrary opinion, he resorts > to a convulsive display of hysteria.
A new word for simply reporting the facts...hysteria. If anyone is in convulsive hysterics, it's you...because I provided the facts, and the facts showed your claims were unsubstantiated. You've apparently got Fonzitis...and can't handle being wrong. I welcome contrary opinion, but opinion is not fact, and you seem to have a hard time distinguishing fact from opinion, much less recognizing fact.
> Austin..nobody really wants to > waste their time reading your absurd piffle about Leica cameras...
I'm not the one who brought up Leicas...I simply provided the facts that YOU wish didn't exist, but they do, and the facts show your comments to be unsubstantiated. That's not a matter of opinion, simply a matter of fact.
> and > other subjects on which you are regretably uninformed.
If you can point out where I'm wrong about something, then please do it by providing facts, not just blathering vapid nonsense. I sounds to me more like you WANT me to be wrong, but you really can't find anything I'm wrong about (unless you want to argue with PhotoDo's testing)...so you express your frustration by being demeaning.
The regret is that everyone on the list is being dragged into the game you are playing (starting out with Leica bashing, and now Austin bashing), and that I've given you any credence by responding to your blathering.
If you have nothing further intelligently or technically (which I don't believe you ever did add anything technical in the first place, you referenced photodo, and I pulled the facts from there...you obviously didn't take a look before providing the reference and got beaten with your own stick) to add to the discussion, then please spare the list your personal vendetta and stop. I certainly have better things to do than defend my self from attacks by you.
Ausin
> Posted by Doug Glover (Douglas) on Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - 12:40 am: > > I would urge you all to read the above personal attack mounted by > Austin Franklin, veteran Contax basher.
Since I didn't "mount" a personal attack, I can only guess that you believe if you somehow say it enough, it will make it true...or people are so stupid that they'll simply forget reality, and believe what you say. Neither, here at least, is true.
I happen to love Contax cameras and Zeiss lenses. I have quite a few of them, and enjoy them all.
What you've been doing, is making things up that simply weren't said. That's typically called lying. What, exactly, are you claiming is "bashing"? If I don't love every aspect of something, and I express my dislike, is that bashing? Fact is, you're the one doing the bashing, and you're bashing Leicas, and now me for pointing out your comments were simply unsubstantiated.
> If you disagree with Austin, or express a contrary opinion, he resorts > to a convulsive display of hysteria.
A new word for simply reporting the facts...hysteria. If anyone is in convulsive hysterics, it's you...because I provided the facts, and the facts showed your claims were unsubstantiated. You've apparently got Fonzitis...and can't handle being wrong. I welcome contrary opinion, but opinion is not fact, and you seem to have a hard time distinguishing fact from opinion, much less recognizing fact.
> Austin..nobody really wants to > waste their time reading your absurd piffle about Leica cameras...
I'm not the one who brought up Leicas...I simply provided the facts that YOU wish didn't exist, but they do, and the facts show your comments to be unsubstantiated. That's not a matter of opinion, simply a matter of fact.
> and > other subjects on which you are regretably uninformed.
If you can point out where I'm wrong about something, then please do it by providing facts, not just blathering vapid nonsense. I sounds to me more like you WANT me to be wrong, but you really can't find anything I'm wrong about (unless you want to argue with PhotoDo's testing)...so you express your frustration by being demeaning.
The regret is that everyone on the list is being dragged into the game you are playing (starting out with Leica bashing, and now Austin bashing), and that I've given you any credence by responding to your blathering.
If you have nothing further intelligently or technically (which I don't believe you ever did add anything technical in the first place, you referenced photodo, and I pulled the facts from there...you obviously didn't take a look before providing the reference and got beaten with your own stick) to add to the discussion, then please spare the list your personal vendetta and stop. I certainly have better things to do than defend my self from attacks by you.
Ausin