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RAW Developer revisited

msadat

Well-Known Member
pls hurry up and finish the beta.


PS
i hope contax learns a little bit about the software engineering, UI and requirements
 

fotografz

Well-Known Member
Don't worry Mehrdad it's coming.... but not to satisfy Contax users as much as they have to add the Canon 1D MKII quickly as it is about to ship here in the US (not to mention add other cameras like the Nikon D70).

We are damned lucky that Greg (Al) Larson got Adobe to include our obscure camera in this new version of the Adobe RAW developer. All ND owners owe him big time.

Three cheers for Mr. Larson !

Now I have a question for all ND users.

I am getting a thin magenta colored line in my RAW files. I do not get this if I shoot Tiff or J-Peg files. The line is in the same place in every shot, but more noticeable in the lighter areas while just about disappearing in darker areas. Anyone else experiencing this?
 

glarson

Active Member
Marc-

Can you post a test shot of a photo with the magenta line(maybe photoshop an arrow to point it out)? Thanks.
 

fotografz

Well-Known Member
Here it is Greg. This is a crop from a shot of a room.

The line extends about 1/3 of the way into the image in RAW only. Tiff and J-Peg shows no signs of it.

Notice how it disappears into the mid or dark tones?

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glarson

Active Member
Marc-

Whoa. I have my ND with me today and I will mess with it to see what I get. I have not noticed it in any of my images. You should let Thomas know asap also. Hopefully it is the plugin and not your camera!
 

irakly

Well-Known Member
Marc, maybe it is a combination of your particular camera and this version of Adobe RAW Converter. I have developed tons of images with the version 2.25 converter and has seen nothing like it at any ISO.
 

fotografz

Well-Known Member
Irakly, I think we saw this from my camera in the past when we were fooling around with it. I used the Contax RAW developer so infrequently that it may have always been there from the beginning.

It never shows up in the Tiff files, so I don't get it.
 
Whilst I have emailed Marc directly with my suspicions as to the cause of his ‘line’ I now realise that my comments to him might benefit a wider audience.

I had a similar experience when moving to raw image processing. In my case I kept getting two lines which varied in apparent length and colour but remained in the same relative positions on the frame. The problem occurred with Contax’s raw developer and SharpRaw. Duane DeSieno, the author of SharpRaw, analysed a raw image I sent him and confirmed a hardware fault.

The problem is caused by dead pixels on the CCD. This is, I have come to believe, a ‘known’ problem associated with early chip production. Contax replaced my ND body.

The message is clear. Anyone with a ND is well advised to analyse an occasional raw image to ensure that their CCD is working properly. Tiff and jpeg images use algorithms which mask the problem.

Bas
 

fotografz

Well-Known Member
Does anyone have a person to call at Contax?

All I get is an answering machine.

Thanks for any help, which is more than I can expect from Contax I guess.
 

msadat

Well-Known Member
try these

Mr. Nick Cheremsak Kyocera Optics, Contax Division Service Department 2301---200 Cottontail Lane Somerset, NJ 08873 ext 4373

crystal 4361/4475 parts


lori 732-563-4367


Contax service department 732 560 0060
Manager Joe x4390
Supervisor Sal X4382
Tech Specialist Nick X4373
 

irakly

Well-Known Member
Marc, sorry, I meant to give it to you earlier.
Laurie McGinnis is a head of the Tech Department. You can either reach her at 732-560-0060 or email her at Laurie.McGinnis@kyocera.com. She is actually great in answering her calls and emails.
 
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I should add that I have on a handful of occasions experienced something similar, but in a very different context. It was when saving TIFF working copies as reduced JPEGs for web publishing. I've had a few of the JPEGs somehow end up with a similar line. Re-doing the resize operation gave me a clean copy.

Weird.
 

irakly

Well-Known Member
I just remembered... In-camera image conversion algorithms include compensation for dead pixels by interpolation into the dead areas. RAW file comes out without any modification, that's why we see such strange behavior.
 

glarson

Active Member
For those waiting for the Camera RAW plugin be patient for a little longer and watch Adobe's website for an update sometime soon. I just sent an email to Thomas Knoll the lead programmer for PS CS. I thought I'd share it with all of you...

"Thanks Thomas. Good job on the Camera RAW beta! I have sent an email to Kyocera/Contax asking them why they aren't more like Adobe. I think I'll add some Adobe stock to my portfolio. Excellent communication, creativity, technical ability, quality, leadership!!! You are eating Japan's development lunch! Maybe Adobe should vertically integrate and buy Kyocera! Thanks for your hard work." For those who have N Digitals we should all be thankful for Adobe's willingness to update Camera RAW to accept the N Digital RAW file so that we don't need to rely on a company that doesn't respond to its customers or pay attention to a market segment or have the guts to publicly announce a strategy...Kyocera. Adobe has earned loyalty from me that will be hard to get rid of. Bravo Adobe.

Take notice Kyocera. Everytime I see one of your US commercials, it reinforces how poorly you have handled development of the ND. The guy at the podium looks like an idiot that was sold a bill of goods and the employees remind me of brainwashed staffers being led to a slaughter. I won't let my employees buy Kyocera products in my companies because I don't know if you will develop or support them based on the way you have botched the ND (the product is great...the development, marketing, and planning is a great business school FUBAR lesson). If you aren't going to upgrade the product then have enough respect for your clients to announce your intentions, good or bad, so we can make our decisions!

I'm might just go long Adobe and short Kyocera.

Greg "Al" Larson
 

glarson

Active Member
I'm told by Thomas Knoll of Adobe that the new Camera RAW plugin version 2.2 is now available for download at
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under "Downloads"...Photoshop...Windows or MAC

Enjoy.

Thanks Adobe!
 

glarson

Active Member
Sorry...when you get to the Adobe website look for the downloads choice under "Support". FYI...Adobe's support of the ND is unofficial so the ND is not listed under the cameras supported. Download 2.2 anyway because it will work with RAW files from the ND. I have been using it for about two months and it rocks. Enjoy!
 

fotografz

Well-Known Member
A HUGE thank you to Greg for getting this Adobe RAW developer off the ground, and now up and running !!!!!

IMO, it is the best ND news I could have asked for.

Thank you , Thank you, Thank you....
 
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