Summicron 50mm vs Noctilux

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I currently own a newer Noctilux and love it, but it's heavy, big, bulky and doesn't produce the contrast I get with my Summilux 35mm. I've been considering a new Summicron 50mm as a lite travel lens. For those with experience with both lenses, please advise me. Thanks
 
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> [If you are used to a 35mm lens as your normal lens, the Summicron 50mm will never do. Stick with a 35, but

if you want an f2, try the 40mm Summicron. Small, light, super sharp,

Jerry

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> I've been considering a new Summicron 50mm as a lite travel > lens. For those with experience with both lenses, please advise me. Thanks =================================================================

Although I prefer having a seperate lens shade, any of the Summicrons will fill your need. I have both the 35 and 50 Summiluxes and both the 35 and 50 Summicrons. All provide excellent images but I use the 35 and 50 Summicrons more often now. The smaller size and common filter size are both pluses. There are many who will argue about which lens model is superior and reasons why. The only thing that REALLY matters is if you are satisfied with the results.
 
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Barry,
The Noctilux a superbe lens, expecially for real aviable light photography.
For general purposes and if you like a high contrasty lens with razor sharpness the Summicron is a great lens.
I own and use each two, and very often I use them like a combo on two different bodies. But consider that I shoot 98% with a 50mm standard lens.

Take the Summicron and enjoy,
Stefano.
 
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P.S. Barry I don't think the Noctilux has to be considered on the constrasty side. It simply isn't made for. The point of the Noctilux stays in its out of focus performances and in it's capability of master high differences of light.
It's only my humble opionion, don't worry about it.
Regards,
Stefano.
 
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[Stefano, Oh I agree entirely. The Noctilux should be judged not only by what is = in focus, wide-open, but what isn't in focus. And here lower contrast is = just beautiful.

I partially bought the Summicron because of its famous clarity and = contrast. I do exclusively B&W and my 35mm Summilux gives me that crisp = contrast. The 50mm Summicron should give me what I need in a normal = focal length lens.

Thanks again for your advice.

Barry]
 
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[Thanks, Stefano.

I went ahead and purchased a Summicron, but haven't processed my film = yet.

I love the Noctilux and have used it as you suggest, but it is big and = heavy, and I don't have a UV protective filter on the lens, because = Leica recommends against it. Since I don't have a protective filter, I = feel pretty vunerable just shooting away with it.

So, I'll let you know what my experiences are with both lenses.

Thanks for your advice.

Barry]
 
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Barry;

I think you did the right thing in purchasing the 5omm Summicron. Even tho' it's the same focal length as the Noctilux, as the above posts mention, then Noctilux is really for a different purpose (wide open).

I have an older model Noctilux(separate hood) that I love, but in truth, I rarely use it. The 50mm Summicron, on the other hand, is what I use 9 out of 10 times.

I have the current Summicron, and find its barrel action to be the smoother & lighter than the previous model (same optics, different barrel). I missed not having a handle, so I had Reinhold Mueller attach a handle.

Regarding not using a UV filter - yeah, I have to agree in leaving it off. For years I used one to protect all my Leica lenses. Like you, I feel vulnerable without one.

However, I've had some heart-breaking incidents where I'll have a shot I really love, and the filter caused a merciless flare. I experimented recently with the 90 ASPH in bright sunlight, with and without a UV filter (a top quality Rodenstock). The flare with the UV filter on, even with the shade deployed, was shockingly visible. So, no more UV filter for me, unless I absolutely need it (e.g., salt spray, at a beach, etc).

Marco
 
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> [Talking about filters, expecially with high speed lenses, same experience as discribed upon. If it's true that without a filter the lens is vulnerable, the results with a filter on is terrible.]
 
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[Thanks Marco and Stefano.=20 Marco, please tell me more about how and where I can have a focusing = handle attached to the Summicron. I love the focusing tab on my 35mm = Summilux.

Do you recommend that I not have a filter on any of my lens, except when = they might be exposed to harsh elements?

Regards, Barry]
 
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Stefano -

Yes, "terrible" is the appropriate word. Most of the time, using a filter is OK - but then, when it creates flare, it's always on THE shot. Luckily, I find the clip-on, rigid hoods for the Leicas are pretty good at keeping most things away, except for dust & spray.

Barry -

I have most of my custom work done by Reinhold Mueller. I'll e-mail you separately if you want contact info.

I always leave the filter off, except on the above-mentioned circumstances - but this is a personal choice. If it makes you really nervous to carry your lens without one (understandable), that's a choice you'll have to make.

Conversely, I find that I've never regretted using a hood - it frequently (but not always, depending on angle of entry) helps with reducing flare, & does provide some protection to your front lens element.

Regards,
Marco
 
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About filters: while for landscape photography I use orange, red, and green filters on Summicron 28mm/Summicron 35mm/Summicron 50mm withouth any defect visible on the results, on contrary using colored filters or also UV filters with 5omm Noctilux or 90mm Summicron (even slim filters by b+w) I've always had problems.
About the hoods I'm completely with Marco. The hood is not a nice free gift you get buyng a Leica lens (or other brand lens). Try to use a Noctilux or a 28mm Summicron with and without the hood and you'll find the difference.
Last weekend I take a shoot to some trees right against light with 28mm Summicron and the hood. The result is very good (according to my criteria).
Enjoy,
Stefano.
 

marco

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The Canadian distributor for Leica just went out of business, so I found their stock at a local camera shop for a good price. I had an opportunity to sell my old Noctilux & get a new Noctilux for the same price, so I went for it.

My main reason for getting the new version is I'd heard that the current one has improved coatings on the elements.

The other reason is my older version has the separate hood. A lot of users liked the older separate hood & I could see why - it provides better protection & doesn't collapse like an extendable hood. However, the one I had was also a pain - the hood would sometimes fall off or it would remain in the camera bag when I pulled the lens out (the version I had was a twist-on/off type hood). So for me, the older hood had a disadvantage.

I haven't processed my first roll yet with the new Noctilux, but already the handling of it is much easier than my old version. The f-stop clicks & focusing ring are nicer to use. The smaller extendable hood obviously doesn't fall off, & it fits in my camera bag better. Time will tell if the there's a visible difference in the newer coatings & if the hood keeps collapsing.
 
Hello. Barry
I have both lens.
I like 50mm very much.
at first... i started 50mm summicron.. it is very sharp and compact. but.. it can't satisfy me a little... because i don't have summilux (my friend had summilux and he said to me that summilux is better than summicron every day every hours. ^^)
Then, I decided to buy noctilux because i want to stand on my friend's shoulder.^^
But.. after buying noctilux, I can't sell my summicron.
Summicron give me a firm confidence.
Noctilux give me a fantastic image.
I have full satisfaction both lense.
If you choose only one lense, the answer is summilux.
But.. If you choose two lenses at 50mm, I recommand you to have both lense.
 

mattinasi

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This is excellent advice! I had a Summicron and I loved it, but I wanted a newer and slightly faster lens, and I always try to get a 1.4 standard lens for any camera. So I moved from Summicron to Summilux - I do not miss the much smaller Summicron at all. I can shoot the Summilux anywhere. If I had a Noctilux I don't know what I would do with it - I guess I could stop pushing my film, or push one stop instead of two :) Both the Summicron and Summilux make incredible images, so no worries there either way.

So, Summicron vs. Noctilux? Buy both! Or buy a Summilux instead. Who the heck can focus at f1 anyway?!? ;-)

Cheers! - marc
 
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