Switching to Leica S2 with H adapter?

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  1. camerafocus

    camerafocus New Member

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    Hello All

    I've been offered an ex demo Leica S2 by Leica UK for only £8'200.00 inc VAT and given that the cameras smaller and seems to have good reviews when it comes to reliability. I'm thinking that this sounds very good.
    I already have a number of HC & HCD lenses from my H3DII kit.

    Has anyone had experience using the S2 with the H lenses?
     
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    camerafocus New Member

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    Leica are going to lend me an S2 & H adapter for the weekend. I'll post my findings if anyone is interested.
     
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    Good Weekend with the Leica

    Hello All

    In case anyone is interested. The weekend with the loan S2 and the H adapter went very well. The camera worked seamlessly with my old H Lenses. the camera was fast and responsive and it was nice to have a smaller camera which could still give the same great image quality shots that I've come to expect from my Hasselblad.
    The Leica lens that was provided was great to use and was nice and bright however I did not see a great deal of difference between the Hasselblad HC100AF and the Leica 70mm lens.
    With the cost of the Leica lenses being much higher I think I'll stick to the H lenses.
    The Leica glass only had a noticeable edge over the H lens when shooting into direct light where there was a noticeable reduction in reflections of the internal elements.
    I Think that I will be going for the S2 body and H adapter to use with my old lenses and keep the H camera as a backup.
     
  4. blowupster

    blowupster Well-Known Member

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    Funny once toi put V le ses on a S2 !
    The 180 or the 100mm perhaps
     
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    camerafocus New Member

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    It is possible to put the V lenses on the S2 but the aperture is not automatic so you would need to open up to focus then stop down before shooting.
     
  6. Thomas73

    Thomas73 Well-Known Member

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    Hi! Thanks for sharing this experience. I admit I am also thinking to get a S2 or S2-P if I find a good deal. As I also own Hasselblad V & H lenses, the adapter rings could allow me to get into this system "smoothly"! :lol:

    Is there a conversion ratio with the H adapter? Then, is the HC 100/2.2 comparable to a 'S 100mm' lens?
     
  7. Rolo

    Rolo Well-Known Member

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    Last month I loaned an S2 with a V adapter for a day. In particular, I wanted to prove to myself that my fave 110mm f2.0 FE worked with it. At the low ex-demo price of £8,000 I'd decided that a successful day would result in a purchase. Thereafter, my intent was to buy a single S lens and use my 4 V lenses and slowly move over.

    It was a complete failure. The Focus Confirmation system just did not produce sharp focus images more than 30% of the time. Absolutely zero confidence in it and a great disappointment. I took a few images with my 50mm FLE and they were OK/good. I came to the conclusion that S lenses would be essential and I'm not ready for that. Manual focus was better, but that defeated my purpose.

    The dealer suggested that the Hasselblad lenses would need to be calibrated to the S2 body. Apparently, the S2 AF system sends a beam to the lens rear element and uses the reflection for confirmation. The rear element has therefore to be in the exact right place. I don't know if this is the case and would appreciate confirmation from anybody that knows.

    Leica offered to pick the issue up on two occasions, but never followed through, so the issue was unresolved.
     
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    blowupster Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for info. I spent only 2 minutes with a S2 and did not succeed any sharp pictures. I probably made mistake or need to change my way to take pictures when I use AF camera.
     
  9. Rolo

    Rolo Well-Known Member

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    Well, I need to put this straight. Several days after my above post, Leica did contact me and went thru the issue. It's now resolved with all lenses focussing critically sharp. Amazingly sharp. Sharper than I've ever seen before, sharp.

    Leica pointed out that the 110mm is identified on their list as not being suitable. I've had the opportunity to check-out my lenses again on the S2. The 50 &'80 work as well as anyone can expect. The 110mm is almost as good.

    In the end, I'm very impressed.
     
  10. Sandokan

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    Oh dear!

    I wish I hadn't read this thread. The only thing stopping me buying the S2 was the limited number of lenses I would be able to afford (1 or 2 at most). Now you have removed this obstacle.
     
  11. UdoS

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    No, there is no optical conversion factor with the Leica S to H adaptor. There are no glass elements in that adapter, just electronics and contacts to allow the S body to communicate with H lenses and vice versa.

    Regards, udo
     
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  12. UdoS

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    I stumbled over this thread after I took the chance to purchase an S2-P body in like new condition plus H and V adaptors a few months ago and I 'd like to share my experiences here as well:

    1) Using the Hasselblad H system since its introduction back in the film days and updating those bodies until the H5D I do own a couple of H lenses. These are the 'old' lens types without the orange dot, i.e. offering shutter speeds up to 1/800s. Those lenses work absolutely flawlessly on the S2, there is no difference to their usage on an H body. This is true for changing the aperture as well. Lens information is written to the EXIF data and can be retrieved by the post processing software like C1, LR and others. Both of these named raw processors even offer lens correction modules. LR is the more comprehensive one in this respect. There is even autofocus possible when the HTS (tilt/shift) adaptor is being used which is not possible on an H body.

    2) V lenses can be focused manually only on the S and the aperture needs to be stopped down (i.e. no transfer from/to the body) but focusing is simple due to the bright viewfinder and the precise electronic focus indicator. Much more convenient than on my 503CW body and a much better hit rate. It is surprising to see what those lenses are capable of which is a great pleasure to see.

    3) Haptic is of course a very subjective matter, but I have to admit that I have always been tempted by the bigger (D)SLR body form factor like a Pentax67 or Exakta66 and as such I do feel/felt very familiar with the S body right from the first moment and I sincerely hope it will last for a while to come.

    All in all a successful experiment for the time being.

    Regards from the Red Sea,
    Udo
     
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  13. dirk

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    @UdoS

    Thanks for the feedback! This helps a lot other users who have not decided yet to make the jump...
     
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    Dirk, thanks very much for your kind words.

    Regards, Udo
     
  15. JosephSavage

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    You made such a detailed review, I think it will come in handy for others!
     
  16. UdoS

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    Thanks Joseph, hopefully it is helpful for others, although it is far away from a "review". There is not too much information to be found. Fortunately it was an experiment with positive results. Due to my remote location one of few ways to go....

    Regards, Udo
     

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