The adapter is only 10% of the difficulty...

jesito

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I've been trying several M42 lenses with the SD9. The main problem is the proper focusing. Although the SD9 seems to recognize the focus point, is not as clear as with the 18-50mm lens. So most of the shots lack of proper focus...
I've been thinking in replacing the focusing screen with a split-image one, but even the reliable Katz-eye have a disclosure on their site regarding the SIGMA cameras:

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Does any of you have experience of focusing manual lenses on the SD9?.

This is the best I got yesterday with a 135mm TAMRON 860 M42 lens attached to the SD9. (It's an OEM lens under the brand Weltblick, I own two of them, the other one is under the brand Sands Hunter). I use it as a lightweight portrait lens:



Kind regards,
Jes.
 

foveonfan

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Jes, I used to use a number of M42 lenses on my SD10 and found that the faster the lens, the easier it was to focus.

However, another thing I found (nothing to do with focussing) was that the purpose designed and built Sigma lenses direct the light more effectively onto the sensor, making far more efficient use of the light.

I have since retired all my M42 lenses.

Sincere regards, Jim R.
 

jesito

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Hi Jim,
Thanks for answering, however I cannot get rid of about fifty M42 lenses... :(

(To Uwe: I'm unable to edit my first post anymore, and I'd need to fix the picture link... Could you please take a look to it, to see why I cannot edit it?. Thanks!!. )

Jes.
 

jesito

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Another samples with the TAMRON 860 M42

Here you have the samples:
IMG03002.jpg

IMG02999.jpg

IMG03009.jpg

Kind regards,
Jes.
 

netzuser

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(To Uwe: I'm unable to edit my first post anymore, and I'd need to fix the picture link... Could you please take a look to it, to see why I cannot edit it?. Thanks!!. )

Jes.
Hi Jes,
users can not edit or delet their post.
Only within the first 3 minutes after posting a post can be edited by a user.
Users can (should) use the "Preview Post" option to check the post and see
what the will look like.:)
Once a posting is online only mods can edit or delete it.

For your 50 ? M42 lenses the classified section would be the place.
Selling and buyiny of items only should discussed there and will be deleted in all other threads.:z02_mod_boese:
Regards
Uwe
 

jesito

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Hi Jes,
users can not edit or delet their post.
Only within the first 3 minutes after posting a post can be edited by a user.
Users can (should) use the "Preview Post" option to check the post and see
what the will look like.:)
Once a posting is online only mods can edit or delete it.

For your 50 ? M42 lenses the classified section would be the place.
Selling and buyiny of items only should discussed there and will be deleted in all other threads.:z02_mod_boese:
Regards
Uwe
Thanks, Uwe.
I didn't know about the 3 minutes limit...

On the other hand, don't worry. I won't be selling any of my beloved M42 lenses :). It took me years to collect them and each one has it's specific character... Besides this, I also own a Canon 350D, a Pentax *istDS and an Oly E-330 and all the lenses are running fine on these.
What I'm afraid is that I will need some more lenses, SIGMA specific, and a focusing screen to improve the focusing with the old lenses.
I've been thinking in getting a faster 18-50, I've seen the 18-50 EX 2.8 in the ads. Do you think it would be worth getting one to replace the "kit" one?.

Kind regards,
Jes.
 

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Banned
Hi Jes,

you can read an awful lot on going for other focussing screens with the SIGMA SDs. My answer is loud and clear ... DON'T!! It Is not really necassary!

The SDs have very good viewfinders (IMHO) it just takes some experience and training to really see the focus. I have an awful lot of M42-lenses too and I use them.

Most of them perform really well .... sometimes you are very surprised about their image quality.

I once went for a very old SOLIGOR 35-140mm 3.5 (constant speed) MACRO lens. I never had thought it would suit for something. In fact, it does!

At the long end you even can enjoy it open with good quality. With the shorter focal lengthes you should slow it down to 5.6 to have the edges sharp. The MACRO-range is sharp like a dream.

Have a look (SOLIGOR with the SD9)

Sample 1.jpg Sample 2.jpg

See you with nice pictures

Klaus
 

jesito

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Hello, Klaus.
Many thanks for your comments,
I've read negative feedback on SIGMA split focusing screens. It's a pity, I solved all my focusing problems with the EOS 350D when I installed the split image focusing screen from Katz-Eye.
I don't have very good eyesight, and the SD9 viewfinder is not what I could call a "brigth" one.
Does the SD14 viewfinder make a difference?.
If so, I might be tempted of going up to the SD14...

Thanks again,
Jes.
 

jesito

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BTW, the two shots are impressive...
I do prefer #2, but both are really nice!.

Jes.
 

netzuser

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Hi Jes,
the viewfinder of the SD14 seems to me a little bit brighter,and also the dark
frame has gone.So the usable field is bigger.
Btw, I would like to remember this one:
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I also have a bad eyesight,wearing tri-focal-glases,and it helps.
Regards
Uwe
 

jesito

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Thanks Uwe!.
I got a NIkon one for the Canon, and it was a nice improvement... Maybe it will hopefully fit in the Sigma as well.
If not I'll go for the Pentax one. :)
Nice to hear the SD14 has gotten rid of the dark square, this should improve a lot the focusing... T(his puts me closer to go for an SD14).

Kind regards,
Jes.
 

Guest .

Banned
Hi All,

The Pentax viewfinder magnifier is a valuable aid to manual focussing.

See you with nice pictures

Klaus
 

jesito

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Back to the initial topic:

This is the lens I used to take the above pictures mounted on the SD9:

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The adapter is one from Poland. I got another M42 to SIGMA from Virtual Village, but it's not very good in design, it lacks the flange to push the aperture pin on the M42 lenses, the diameter is smaller and it's very difficult to remove from the camera...

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The left one is the polish one. The only drawback, it's made of alu...


Kind regards,
Jes.
 

OyvindS

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Sd15

Hello Jes

Mmmmm....
Sounds good. Let's wait to see what's coming out from SIGMA...
Is there any estimation on when it will be available?.

Kind regards,
Jes.
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AFAIK, the camera is not in beta yet, so I doubt the suggested release date.
 

netzuser

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Hi Jes,
we´ll have to wait and see what the new TRUE II processor will be.
I hope there will be some noticeable improvement.
The TRUE I in the DP1 already does a great job.
Regards Uwe
 

Guest .

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Back to the initial topic:

This is the lens I used to take the above pictures mounted on the SD9:

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The adapter is one from Poland. I got another M42 to SIGMA from Virtual Village, but it's not very good in design, it lacks the flange to push the aperture pin on the M42 lenses, the diameter is smaller and it's very difficult to remove from the camera...

View attachment 1128

The left one is the polish one. The only drawback, it's made of alu...


Kind regards,
Jes.
Hi Jes,

the black adapter is the high-quality one from Poland. It does a perfect job!

The other one seems to be a Pentax-K type, that does not really fit the SIGMA-SA mount. That the aperture pin is not pressed is the other thing (you mentioned that). The worst thing then is, that its flange-to-film adjustment is wrong. If I am right, you should be able to focus wider than infinity!?? The lens then is to close to the image sensor .... I once had such an adapter ... it is no use.

See you with nice pictures

Klaus
 
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