VoigtlanderCosina new Contax rangefinder mount body and lenses

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Voigtlander/Cosina announced new Contax mount body. It will fit most if not all of your existing classic Contax rangefinder lenses. Camera is based on the Voigtlander R2 body (build in meter, frames). Some sneak pics can be seen here:

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New lenses are 28mm, 50mm, 90,, and previously made: 21mm, 25mm and 35mm. Plus of course an additional trigger winder will also be available.

I think this is very exiting especially for owners of the good classic Zeiss glass but not so excellent bodies. At least this was my case. I got a body and a lens at a bargain but the body started to give up on me and I couldn't afford any extra focal lengths so I had to sell it off. Now I know I could have kept the lens and use the original Contax body as a backup.
 
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Voigtlander/Cosina announced new Contax mount body.

This IS interesting news, Matt. It may well give a boost to used lens values. Jack C.
 
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Hi Matt and Jack!

I just had an interesting talk to a salesman from ringfoto, which distributes Voigtländer in Austria and Germany. He said that the Voigtländer R2C definitifly will be launched. Next week he will ring me up and give more detailed informations. So this is for me as a collector of Contax a real sensation indeed!! Several years I asked at Yashica Hamburg wheater they will bring an adaptor to fit the old Zeiss (and Kiev) lenses at the G1/G2, but they did nott show any interest in that threat.

BTW: three lenses with Contax (Zeiss-Ikon) mount will be launched (others to follow!!): 21/4, 25/4 and 35/2,5.

Regards
Wolfgang
 
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The lenses are already available in the US. There is many more to come.

Matt
 
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"There is many more to come."

Could you please be more specific or is it just not yet the time to announce it?

dirk
 
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Sure thing. When you look at the Voiglander line available for the screw mount cameras you will see range of lenses anywhere from 12 to 90mm. Voigtlander previously released limited amount of lenses in Contax mount which were mentioned (21, 25 and 35). Reason behind it was that people probably have 50mm or a 90mm but wide angle lenses were always to expensive for regular Joe to buy. Now when you look closely at the pics at cosina site you will see Bessa Contax mounted with 28, 50 and there is a 90 there as well. So what you should expect is:
Bessa with Contax Mount (to be released)
21mm (already available)
25mm (already available)
28mm (to be released)
35mm (already available)
50mm (to be released)
90mm (to be released)

Now to speculate Voigtlander has two very interesting lenses one of them is 12mm and another one is 15mm. I think it's just a matter of time before one or another will also be available in the Contax mount.

Matt
 
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these are not contax mount but nikon mount, even though similar, they are for nikon. the two new bodies r2s (nikon) and r2c (contax) and a new 85mm lens on the nikon mount.
 
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My bad. When I read the release they mentioned 2 bodies and 3 lenses (28, 50 and 85 which I confused with 90). There was no indication which mount they will be designed for. I just assumed they will cover both cameras. I didn't know that at first they will only target Nikon S mount.
 
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i nobody of you knows: lux technology of france offers a cheaper 12mm/11 to 22/i guess. its possible that the 22 is integrated in the lens-cap- like the 5.6 in a fantastic 500/4.0 sigma-mirror. unfortunately i have sold it due to lack of money. today this would be a fantastic af-lens with contax ax! above all because my version could not go very near, but with ax its possible. the other fantastic lens could be the old vivitar 450/4.5 series 1 cat. i had the 600/8 and autofocus worked even indoors! although it is said it works only at 5.6 and higher. sorry next time i will post in the lens chapter.
 
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Recently the German Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung did publish some informations abut a new Voigtländer Bessa R2C (FAZ 05.11.02, page T6). The message says (by citing Gerd-Rainer Frost of Ringfoto/Voigtänder) that Bessa R2C shall use the old "Zeiss-Ikon-Vontax-Bajonett", be in the price range of around EURO 1000 and does specificly care to occupy one of the smallest and smartest revival-niches of photography. A 40mm and 80mm lens shall be available from scratch; however the camera is made for those who collect the old Contax I, II and III lenses. Focussing shall work as with Contax II by use of the small finger-wheel ...

That's sounds interesting ... If the Bessa R2C cares about the two different forms of the bajonett-clutch (one for up to 90 mmm and a bigger one starting with the 135 mmm) ...
 
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Hi folks!

Here are the latest news I just got from ringfoto Austria: this camera will be available in spring 2003, and will cost about 990€. Further details to come.

Regards
Wolfgang
 
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For almost $1000 I think you can buy a real thing, have it overhauled/rebuild and enjoy the original instead of remake.
 
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Hi Matt!

I really agree with You here. At this price I will get a Contax IIIa and send it in for general overhaul, and have a REAL Contax. The only benefit of the Voigtländer is the TTL Metering and the Hotshoe. To me this Voigtländer seems to be much overpriced.

Best regards
Wolfgang
 
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Sorry, I forgot some additional news: It is being said that there will not be any Voigtländer lens with the old Contax mount (maybe this is only for the european market I assume). So it is really to ask what purpose this camera shall be.

Regards
Wolfgang
 
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>Hi Wolfgang (and everyone else on the list)

Firstly, I would go for a IIa rather than a IIIa. Unless you have the meter fully overhauled too it is likely to be dead, and not too useful. The IIa is better looking IMHO too.

Besides the TTL meter and hotshoe the other advantage of the Bessa is a brighter rangefinder, my IIa is fine, but pales in comparison to a friend's Le**a M3 rangefinder. I haven't seen it but I guess the Voigt would fall between the two.

**off topic** What I really want to know from Cosina is the compatability of their new lenses on old Contax bodies, particularly the wide angles, any clues anyone??

Cheers

Ben
 
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> I like my Contax IIa also. What drives me CRAZY is the focus lock at infinity. I tend not to use it so much because if this. Jeff
 
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Wolfgang, No new lenses in the Contax mount, that truly sucks!

The point I suppose is to use your old Zeiss lenses, but they are doing the almost identical Nikon mount. Cosina are trying hard with the Bessa, but to release a body with no lenses sounds very strange to me.

Though I'm sure I read on Camera Quest somewhere that the Nikon mount wides (35 and wider) are fine to use on Contax, as the depth of field is greater than the mismatch of the rangefinder coupling.

Is anyone using Nikon lenses on their Contax, and able to confirm this??

cheers Ben
 
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Hi Jeff, My advice is either; get a different length lens, the focus lock only works on the 50mm AFAIK, all others that use the outer bayonet disable it.

Or try to disable it yourself, my thought would be to wedge open the little post next to the mount on the camera front (that way you can still use the focusing wheel on top if you want). Or use some tape on the top plate to hold down the lock It may not be a pretty solution, but your Zeiss glass should make up for it :)

Ben
 
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> Thanks Ben, I'll try it. It really made me nuts. I lost shots because of it when raking the focus back and forth- lock- %*@#!!
 
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