What is the value of this camera

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Guest

Hi everybody!

I have a Leica 2 camera (serial # 82925) with 50mm F/3.5 Leitz Elmar lens in original case.
The camera is in PERFECT condition (please see attached photo). The camera works just fine!

How do I determine the value of this camera?

Thank you for your time.

Mike.
 
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Guest

Dear Mike,

You have a very beautiful camera and lens.

What I find unusual is the camera having carry strap eyelets and a small shutter speed dial.

The camera is from the first batch of the model II which had a large shutter speed dial and did not have strap eyelets.

Maybe they were 'upgraded' later in its life which was not unusual.

As to value, the 8th edition of the Leica International Price Guide published by Hove Books values the camera in this condition at US$850.00 and the lens at US$200.00.

I do not think this far from what the market would consider a fair price.

Never the less keep it and enjoy. Load with Fuji Superia 400, rate at 200ISO and go forth and shoot.

All the best,

Justin Scott
 
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Guest

Justin,
Thanks so much for the info. I am definitely keeping this camera.
You got me interested mentioning "the upgrades." This camers was brought from Germany by an American soldier, when he returned from World War II.
I know the son of this soldier, may be he remembers if his father made any upgrades to the camera.

Why do you sugest overexposing the film one full stop? When I use 200 ISO Agfa film, it comes out rather contrasty (but contrasty in a "nice" way!)

Do you know of a Web Site with pictures of old Leica cameras?

THANKS AGAIN!
Mike.

P.S. Attached is a photo of this camera in its case.
 
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Guest

Hi Mike,

I suspect the upgrades would have been done in the thirties long before the American soldier acquired it.

Regarding overexposing colour negative films, I have found for enlargements with shadow detail and better saturated colour anything from two thirds to one full stop is necessary. For 4"x6" machine prints you will not notice the difference. In my pre-war Leicas I use Fuji Superia 400 and rate it at 200. I also do the same in my wife Leica C1 by manipulating the DX coding on the film canister.

Unfortunately I do not know a Web Site with pictures of old Leica cameras. I tend to collect images as I find them such as yours, and there are often very good images on eBay although not much pre-war equipment.

If I can help in any way without clogging the Forum, my email is jcdscott@bigpond.net.au

Kind regards,

Justin
 
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For interesting articles and a few pictures on LTM cameras, see Stephen Gandy's "Camera Quest" web site at
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- scan down to the heading: Leica Screw Mount "Barnack Cameras"
 
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Guest

Mike - where in the world did you get a Leica II in such good shape? Even if the camera came from Germany after the war, it is a remarkable find.
The chrome on the lens and the timer dial seem to be too shiny, as if they were polished.
In any case - no good guesses on what it might be worth - several hundred if an expert established that the camera had not been refurbished/repainted. Otherwise, just love the thing for its beauty and utility - they remain great and fun cameras.

Sincerely
Max
 
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Guest

Hi Mike,

The other detail I overlooked, in the excitement of seeing such a beauty, is the slow speed dial.

This tends to confirm my opinion that, assuming the serial number is correct, sometime in the thirties the camera was sent back to Wetzlar and had the slow-speeds, strap-eyelets and later speed-dial added. It was a very common occurence and in fact dealers would often do it with cameras 'traded-in' on later models.

Look around for a nickel collar for the shutter release to complete its orginality. If I can find one here I will let you know.

Cheers,

Justin
 
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Guest

Mike - I have been through my reference materials and it seems likely that your camera is in fact a Leica Model D or Leica II, with the addition of the slow speeds and eyelets.

It would help a lot if you could take a closer picture of the camera top, specifically showing the engraving clearly. Also the back of the camera showing the eyepieces, and the bottom of the camera - inside.

The more I look at your camera, the more interesting it becomes.

Thanks

Max
 
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Guest

Hi guys!
Thanks for all the input and help!
Here's a little more "history" on this camera.
My friend says that his father actually brought two Leica cameras from the war and mainly used the other one. That's why this one is in such good shape.
Yes, it looks like it was modified by the factory, but BEFORE my freind's father got it.
The serial number is correct (see picture) and the camera was not repainted.
Thanks again!
Mike.
 
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Guest

Hi guys,

I am surprised how much interest is in the older leica collections out there. If you want to, feel free to open new threads for each model in this Leica classic section and upload photos of the specific cameras incl. comments with it.

This might be the best possibility to add also comments from others so that one big "knowledgebase" can be developped fast.

The upload limits within the forum are 100KB and 600x400 pixel which gives you really big quality pictures. Use in photoshop the function "save as web.." this is reducing the image size dramatically without loosing to much quality. You can chnge in this menu also the qaulity from 0-100 and the pixel size.

Hope that helps

Dirk
 
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Guest

Mike - based on your new photo, I agree with you - the camera has not been repainted and looks completely genuine, allowing for the the factory modifications to later standards (quite common with pre-war Leicas). And the serial number checks for a Leica D.
Again, a beautiful camera - if sold with the lens and case and given the available provenance info, I would expect you could get something over $600, or better.
But it's much more valuable to use and treasure. As you can see, I am not a collector.

Sincerely, Max
 
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Justin et alii,

could you provide us with some of your collected images of older Leica cameras?

You can start a thread for each model with the model name as the thread topic. Then you can upload the image as a first comment and write a line like when it was available and what a fair price would be nowadays.

This would help many others collectors for learning more about all these Leicas.

If I can assist you in any way for making it easier for, let me know...

Dirk
 
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Great idea Dirk,

I will have a look at what I have as digital images.

Justin
 
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Mike,

Go to
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for a good website with lots of pictures of classic cameras. Select "Classic Camera Profiles" and you will find a chapter on Leica II and many other fine stuff.
The Leica Historical Society of America is another good source:
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Jacques
 

magnolia70123

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I have the luck of having a Nikon 105/2.5 LTM with all original caps and hood. S\Also has the original case. The condition is mint. My concern is that when I've used it on my Leica IIIF red dial, IIIF red dialST, and /Canon SII the lens screws in all the way , focus accuratly but the tripod mount screw hole never lines up on the vertical at 90degrees. Is this a common anomoly of the lens or is my tripod mount incorrectly adjusted. I've examined the screw heads and they never seem to have been touched. So I wonder if its just characteristic of this lens. This never allows me to use the tripod and all my uses have been handheld. Results are phenomenal, but I always wonder what a tripod could add to its already outstanding images. Thanks for any info you can share. DLR
 
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hektor

Dear Manuel,

That is normal. It is the focusing cam that is the important location.

As an experiment put the lens in a tripod and make sure all is sitting horizontally. Then screw the camera onto the lens and just before it is tight unscrew until the camera is also horizontal.

Now take a few photos at infinity and a few more at one metre. If that solves your problem have a fine-mechanic make up a thin spacer for the back of the lens.

Great lens, I have suggested to Leica a similar focal length and speed.

Regards,

Justin
 
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