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WTB TVS Model 1

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wilsonlaidlaw

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I am looking to buy a TVS model 1 with panorama facility for my son to take to the jungles of Thailand and Laos. The cosmetic condition is unimportant, as it is going to rattle around in a rucksack for over three weeks in the rainy season and however bad it is to start with, it is going to be a lot worse when it comes back. Must be good mechanical condition. Due to import duty/VAT situation prefer UK/European sources.
 

wilsonlaidlaw

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Many thanks to those of you who sent me private emails offering your T Contaxes. I have now purchased a cosmetically challenged but mechanically perfect black Tix at the excellent price of GBP120. I now hope that my son will take to film again, even if it is APS, after some years with digital. At least it will keep his hands off my G2. Wilson
 

wilsonlaidlaw

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When I collected the Tix today, I was amazed to find that the standard soft pouch from Kyocera (CC-66) is made of vinyl - with a camera whose new price is/was around GBP500 - not very impressive. The alternative semi-hard case, CC-67, doubles the overall size of the package. I have found that there is a pouch made by people called Oyster Meteor, their size 10 is a perfect fit, in lined glove leather at a cost of about GBP15, which is about the same as Kyocera charge for a new vinyl case. If anyone else would like to replace their original pouch, you can probably search on Google to find local stockists like I did. Wilson
 
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garth

Sounds like you have a very attractive alternative there, Wilson. For the cheapskates among us, I recommend one of the generic nylon drawstring bags with foam padding offered by B&H at $6-$8, depending upon size. They're available in several colors and are very functional but they will not win any beauty prizes. ;>)
 

bobbl46

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Excellent information Wilson ..... handy to know for the little P&S Digi's too!

Cheers, Kyocera Kid
 

gob

Member
If I was hoping to convert someone from digital back to film, don't know that I would have gone APS at any price (contax or otherwise).
 

wilsonlaidlaw

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Graham,
I think it is a lost cause converting most young back to film. My son will have no option as he is back-packing into northern Thai mountain jungles to install fresh water systems in Karin villages. There is no electricity to recharge digitals so he will have to leave his Dimage and Canon EOSD at home. I know APS can be disappointing, as my daughter had a very poor, albeit quite expensive, Minolta Vectis 300. I think it was very compromised by a small aperture, overly ambitious zoom lens. The negative size of APS is 16.7 x 30.5mm which is not dramtically smaller than the 24 x 36 of 35mm. I think if one sticks to 100 or 200 ASA film and gets the films well developed, with the 28mm f2.8 Sonnar lens the results should be quite good enough for a P&S camera. The size/weight/unobtrusiveness of the Tix and the immediacy of a very auto camera is also an advantage for reportage and candid people shots. Finally I have had very good reports or the Tix's robustness. Wilson
 

smartrav

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Please don't poo poo APS. Maybe you had a poor camera. I have an Olympus Centurian and it is outstanding. Better than my Nikon with APO zoom lens. I have made excellent enlargements up to 16 x 28 inches that look great. Perfect for travel. Excellent zoom range, automatic fill flash, great exposure range. I just returned from a trip to the Copper Canyon in Mexico. I used the APS for color shots and my Contax G2 for B&W. The APS for pans are excellent. Some instruction with your son on how to use the camera and hold it steady would be good before he makes the trip. Never go off on a trip without running a few rolls as tests first.

Only thing I don't like about the camera is I don't know what it is doing for f/#, etc. But I won't argue with success.
 

gob

Member
APS has been justifiably 'poo pooed' enough by a vast majority of former users. My own experience - I had the original Canon Elph Junior with the fixed 2.8. Arguably one of the sharpest APS P&S, and probably pretty close to the TIX. But it couldn't hold a candle to the Epic or Y-T4. To me, the advantage of film over digital is image quality. These days, digital is probably equivalent to APS so I see no advantage.

APS perfect for travel? Only if you bring your own film or are in an common area that carries it. 35mm is everywhere.

Anyway I don't mean to be rude, Wilson, by inferring you bought the wrong camera. I think you got an excellent deal on it, and if I was to shoot APS the TIX would be it. Bottom line is that if you are happy with it -great - that is all that really matters.
 

wilsonlaidlaw

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Graham,
When I was talking to someone on the Kodak stand at a photoshow in France last year, I expressed the view that their new pro digital with 14mp signalled the end for film. His reply was interesting. He said that the theoretical resolving power of the then new high definition 100 ASA negative film was in the region of 38mp for a 35mm negative, so that digital still had some way to go to reach this. On this basis, with the reduced negative size of APS, it should still be capable to a resultion of up to an equivalent of 22.5mp i.e. better than anything other than a full size 120 digital back. The poor results that I accept many APS cameras produce can therefore only be down to three factors; poor lens design, poor lens to film register control or the film not being held flat on the register plane. My own experience was that I was given a cheap waterproof single focus Minolta as a promotional gift at a conference, which I passed on to my children. I was very pleasantly surprised at the quality of the output. When the time came to replace another family camera (a long suffering Olympus 35mm compact, which finally succumbed to a mixture of sand, suntan lotion and Coca Cola), I purchased a quite expensive Minolta Vectis 300, with a longish zoom lens, at around GBP180 on the strength of the results of the cheap Minolta. Its results were very poor and it has languished in a drawer for most of its life, has now taken umbrage and died. Given Contax's experience with lenses and the fact that they decided not to put the Vario Sonnar on the camera, I sincerely hope that the output of the Tix will comfortably exceed that of the original and satisfactory cheap Minolta. Wilson
 
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